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since we're here to address the issue

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from the standpoint of government

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involvement I'd like to start with a

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kind of short rundown of where her

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government has been along the way with

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some elements that uh a lot of people

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may not may not be aware of of course we

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all know that we had the back in the 60s

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and and so on Project sign and Grudge

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and blue book and then in

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1969 uh the Blue Book uh was shut down

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based on recommendations from Condon and

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so on so at that point if you called the

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air force uh office and said well what's

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happening in in UFOs and so on they say

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oh no no we we gave all that stuff up

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back in in

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1969 the truth of the matter is that the

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bolander memo that actually shut down

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Blue Book had underlying in fine print

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but any UFO issues that might affect

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National Security we will continue to

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follow through them and so it didn't

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really die it just went out of

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sight now along the way uh uh something

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that that came across my path in in this

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was that I was contacted by a

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uh CEO of a think tank in Washington

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DC uh this is back a couple of decades

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ago he says I want you to come and

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participate at a conference here in in

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Washington I said well frankly I'm too

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busy what's it about he says I can't

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tell you what it's about but if you come

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and you participate you will consider it

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later to be one of the most important

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conferences you ever

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met well since I had respect for him and

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know his background and many things he's

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done I did finally decide to come to

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this conference and when I arrived uh

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there were about I don't know 15 20

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people I recognized some of them from

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the military from

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CIA Dia some business men and so on so I

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thought well this is this is quite an

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interesting group of

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people and so to start the conference

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off he

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said this conference is about disclosing

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something to the American

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public as a startup position let's

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assume that there have been crash revals

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by Russia China and the United

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States and the question is can we bring

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this out to the

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public and so I think I and most of the

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people I knew you talk to later but oh

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this is really cool I mean this this

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this could really go some

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place so he said okay the strategy we're

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going to use is we're going to make a

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list of all the areas that you think

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would be affected by

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this and then on each one you're going

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to have to grade them on the scale from

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plus 9 to minus 9 as to the level of

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impact and whether it's positive or

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negative okay so we started out by

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making list so we start out with the

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obvious things well I mean the stock

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market uh maybe uh religions well

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certainly politics would be effective so

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we made a long list and it was really a

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long list and time we got down to the

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bottom of the list we're really in the

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weeds like okay if Corporation a has

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access to retrieve

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materials then Corporation B doesn't

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then when this comes out Corporation B

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is going to sue Corporation a sue the

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government this is really going to be a

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tough thing to kind of handle okay okay

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so anyway we broke up into groups he's

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that were in our list

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category even though we were kind of

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positively disposed to the idea so I

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thought well maybe that just has to do

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with particular list that we got so then

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list and said you know we came to a

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negative number also well make a long

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story short it turned out that everybody

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going through these lists it was a very

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sophisticated situation with complex

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computers and big screens and all that

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kind of stuff it finally came down to

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the fact that the problem

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was there's so many areas to

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handle and there was no way to handle

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them all at the same

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time and so the final result was

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therefore believe said we're going to

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recommend that we don't go forward with

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this and so those of us who were

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participating in this were pretty

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disappointed thinking you know we

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started thinking that you know this

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would be a good thing to

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Lesley proclaimed so well in her

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uh uh let's see Senators Reed Inu and

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new study started from scratch with new

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involved to to investigate the

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area so I would like to remind you that

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those three senators were all part of

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the gang of eight which means they

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probably had some background as to you

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know why this was a good

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idea and so they uh told the defense

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intelligence agency to start a program

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now this was the oap

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program uh which you you're probably all

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familiar with uh Advanced Aerospace

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program and the requirements of the DIA

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two one the most obvious one of course

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is where are these things coming from

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what's their

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intent uh what do we have to deal with

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here it turns out that that was not a

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particular interest it was really item

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number two and that is since we know

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other countries are researching this

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getting access to materials and so on

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what happens if they

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develop Advanced Technologies in our

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adversarial uh competitors that leaped

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ahead of us that's what they were most

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worried about so we had to take on that

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as as our challenge to figure out you

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know you what could it be

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now the list of things they wanted us to

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investigate and I want you to think

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about the fact that they must have known

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something to make a list like

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this they were interested in 12

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well that's a pretty intelligent list so

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chances are you've got some knowledge

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that's driving this list so our ingoing

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assumption was okay and maybe what we

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have heard way back in 2004 was true and

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that is country do have access to crash

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PR materials okay so well let's just go

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get their materials and get them men the

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negotiate that and the answer was this

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compartmentalized it just isn't going to

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happen when I say compartmentalized I

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mean people had stuff in their basements

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that they would love to have brought up

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to their scientists and Engineers of the

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top four it was so compartmentalized and

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so secure they couldn't do that so that

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turned out to be a nonstarter said okay

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then we'll come in the front door for

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your people to work on it and we won't

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reveal where this stuff uh came from so

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that that'll give you you know what what

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it that got shot down big time so we

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okay we can't do this the obvious

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stuff so how about

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this let's go to all the experts in the

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world that we wish we could have passed

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unto and and tell them that we're just

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doing a survey for bigo

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unclassified could go to people in other

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they set up for us I'll just read a few

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of them there were 38 all together

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literature and and many of them did when

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documents and usually when you publish

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technical papers like that this is just

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they're of interest to people for about

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uh a month or so we were told that this

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series of dirs was the most high quality

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longlasting set they ever put up they

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everybody was you know really into uh

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eventually as time goes forward and

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FAS at this point all of the these

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were going to troun all over me and say

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oh my God you didn't tell me to say

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anything to do with ET or UFOs or

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whatever but the quality papers we got

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as if we had been able to share

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materials and so on so anyway that's

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the present time and of course now uh

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after her article appeared and all the

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interest came up and as you know we have

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and saying straight out we've got

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materials craft

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bodies he's not the only one as it turns

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out the person who ran the program at

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DIA for us was uh Jim laty

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lasi who ran the program from

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DIA col kellerer who was the project

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manager at bigo Advanced Aerospace

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studies who was the prim

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contractor and George na called inside

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the US government overt UFO programs

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initial

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Revelations and uh one of the key

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phrases in there that certainly caught

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my attention when I saw it was that Jim

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laty who is also a very

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high intelligence

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Community uh responsible

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individual reveals in the book that we

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have craft of Unknown Origin and we've

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gotten inside it so it isn't just Dave

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Rush as a high level intelligence person

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bringing us out to the world we now have

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the person who ran this program which is

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a very significant program so anyway

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that's that's where we come to so uh I

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think Now's the Time that you know we

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have all these reasons to take this

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really seriously and to to uh expect

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that something is going to come out into

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the public and of course many of you

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know about the Schumer Amendment uh

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where can't believe it in a

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congressional

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Amendment the word nhi non-human

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intelligence appears over 20

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times and uh if that

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passes things will move forward at some

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relatively rapid clip but there are

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going to be problems because some of the

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problems are going to go back to what we

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looked at Even in our disclosure

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conference and that

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is people get

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materials ordinarily you say okay it's

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on a contract the government has you

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know access to it and so

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on but originally when they went to

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Aerospace corporations and elsewhere and

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said you know you got to help us with

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this problem their answer was we're not

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going to do

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that well what do you mean you're not

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going to do that I mean we're going to

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give you money yeah but then you'll own

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it all and you know we'll work on it

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you'll take advantage of it so they

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basically said uh okay if we have

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control then we'll consider doing it and

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there are technical ways of getting

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control for example if you're on a

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contract and uh you sign an NDA or

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whatever well I mean the government is

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involved on the other hand there are

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things called irad internal R&B that all

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major corporations have where they get

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money from the government but it's for

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them to do whatever they want to do and

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whatever they do they

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own and so that's an issue that's going

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to put a damper on complete disclosure

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to the public I'm sure so

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these aspects of the Schumer memorandum

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they really going to have to work on

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that to to to make it work to where uh

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you know the public in general has going

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to learn a lot but I think I think we're

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on the right track so that's that's

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that's where we are on the development